I could use some understanding and encouragement from my fellow cappies. It seems that at this point in my life, I've gotten myself into a situation that I know is morally questionable. But I can't honestly admit to myself that I'm regretful for getting into it. It's become a HUGE source of emotional/mental pain for me. I know the correct, logical thing to do would be to get out of the situation. But my emotional self doesn't have the strength to let go. I know surely I'm not the only goat who's been stuck in such hole. But it always feels like you're the only one when you're going through it. I want to be strong to do the right thing, but I feel I need more help than I can give myself. I need that extra cappie boost.
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Re: A goat in need....
Sat, April 5, 2008 - 3:22 PMif you know logically that it's bad for you, try to figure out *why* you don't want to get out of the situation. the real root of the reason why you don't want out. weigh out against the pros & cons of the situation. sift and sort, reorganize & look at it from a different angle. this usually helps me get my head & heart on the same page. -
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Re: A goat in need....
Mon, April 7, 2008 - 7:46 PMWe goats seem to have a knack for doing the very things that we know aren't good for us. In a way, we undermine our growth and progress by reverting to negative behavioral patters of self-abuse, degrading self-talk, and negativity in general. I think it's because we are ruled by Saturn, the planet of restriction, rules, structure, and "doing the right thing" and those of us who haven't released our shadow selves will rebel against Saturn in any way we can get away with. Well, there is only so long you can get away with it--especially when you are faced with a Saturn return, or worse, the impending transit of Pluto in Capricorn. Over the next 7 years, each and every one of us will be forced to face our darker nature and find a way out of unhealthiness on every level.
So if you find that you just can't let go of old patterns that you know aren't healthy, it may be time to (as Bats said) examine why it is that you want to keep yourself in a miserable situation despite your higher reasoning. For me, it came down to finally realizing that i didn't believe i deserved to be happy, and i had to change that. So much of my energy was funneling into maintaining the constant fight against misery. Once i eliminated misery at the very source (my own sense of self-worth), there was nothing to fight anymore.
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Mon, April 7, 2008 - 10:29 PMcorrection: 16 years. That is how long it will take for Pluto to decimate every last bit of Capricorn egos. 7 years is how long i will personally be dealing with this transformation. If you were born in the first few days of Capricorn, you are already feeling the effects coming on. -
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Fri, April 11, 2008 - 5:48 PMI was born on 12/23. Does that make any difference? -
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Fri, April 11, 2008 - 11:59 PMhell yeah, you are right in the thick of the Pluto transit now. It will be going back and forth over your natal sun for the next year.
the best advice i've heard for surviving a Pluto transit is to hang on and appreciate the growth, learn to let go and stop trying to exert control, and to meditate on what death means in terms of liberation. There is a lot of good stuff out there about Pluto, search "Pluto transit Sun" or get one of Jeffrey Greene's books.
I am just one degree after you and i saw this coming ten years ago. I am pretty sure Pluto just went retrograde so it will feel like it's easing up slightly (the intensity) but the changes within you are imminent. Don't fight them--you are transforming into someone new. Be prepared to face death, either metaphorically with the ego, or literally through losing loves ones.
You can send me a PM if you want...
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 9:25 AMI've come to the conclusion that I must be a complete idiot lacking the ability to learn from my mistakes or too stubborn to do the right thing. I'm having such an emotionally crappy time right now. I want to go hide atop the highest mountain for a few years. -
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 10:31 AMWe're pretty good at self-sabotage, aren't we?
Why is that!?
I think I tell myself one thing, when I really know the actual answer and I'm too stubborn or have no self-discipline to make the change. But, you are doing your self a disservice by not honoring that inner wisdom to do the right thing. And I circle back to that point every time I find myself in a situation similar to yours. -
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 1:07 PMIt doesn't help that I think the situation I'm in is what I want when I know in my heart it isn't what's best for me. I think I need some time away to clear my head and be strong again. If I can see things again from a sensible perspective and not be so emotional then I think I can do what must be done. Even though I'll want to die later. -
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Re: A goat in need....
Mon, May 19, 2008 - 4:05 PM"when I know in my heart it isn't what's best for me."
and right there is your answer. As hard as it may seem, that's the one you should be listening to. The longer you keep denying the truth, the more problems will arise in other areas of your life. People don't like to hear that, but in most cases, it's exactly what happens.
I wish you luck in your decision.
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Re: A goat in need....
Tue, May 20, 2008 - 4:13 PMMunk, pluto is sitting right on your sun right now. Pluto forces much needed change ...if you are not where you are supposed to be..pluto transit can bring pain and suffering until you let go of what it is trying to get you to leave behind. The longer you hold on to what is not good for you the worse you will feel. -
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Tue, May 20, 2008 - 7:51 PMI think you're right. But I know I'll be miserable whether I stay or go. There's just no happy ending for me. That would be too much to ask. -
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Tue, May 20, 2008 - 9:25 PMthat is the story you're writing for yourself.
there is no way for you to know what it will be like until you move through it.
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Wed, May 21, 2008 - 8:13 AMThis really shouldn't be so complicated. Why do I have such a hard time with this stuff?! -
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Thu, May 22, 2008 - 6:41 PMMunk ...I am just taking a stab here an you dont have to answer...but are you perhaps in a relationship with someone but you have somehow started something with someone else? I just am getting a vibe...but could be totally wrong....
Also I know you said that you felt like staying or going will both cause pain...but keep in mind us caps always feel better when we feel secuure...or when we have control. There will of course be pain but even just making the decision of which pathway to follow and having it decided can bring a ton of relief to a Cappie. Cause then we can say to ourselves "ok...thats what I am doing....so lets keep going then."
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Re: A goat in need....
Sat, June 28, 2008 - 2:48 PMI totally know what you're talking about. I got myself in a BAD rut for almost two years.. and I kept trying to justify and reconcile, justify and reconcile, justify and reconcile. It was hell for me, emotionally and mentally.
You'll get out of it. Go through some sort of cleansing process. The tough thing for Capricorns is that we absolutely must have some sort of timetable/plan/footing/logical explanation. Realize that sometimes, it's just not there and it's not ever going to be there. If something has gone sour, just realize that it's soured and toss it out. Reprocussions will be what they will. Seriously, do some cleansing. Do a fast, or a mental fast, to let something go. Write about it and burn it. Meditate on it. Talk with someone you trust about it. Just get it out, one way or another. Don't sit on it.
We Capricorns are ruled by Saturn, one of the most powerful planets in the zodiac. Saturn is Father Time, the possessor of knowledge and experience. You inherently know what to do and what is right.
We all get stuck in ruts from time to time.
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Re: A goat in need....
Wed, August 13, 2008 - 8:52 AMsounds like you're in a relationship with a scorpio...
