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So, I was reading over on another forum and at least 3 people (all Leos) had the same experience of Cap friends who hang out with them hardcore for a little while partying, having a good time, but then disappear suddenly for weeks or months on end. Then when they finally saw them again and said how worried they were, Cappy just shrugged and seemed confused at the idea of someone worrying about them.
I have to admit that this is something I do with just about everyone, particularly a Leo friend of mine. I don't know whether it's a particular cappy trait, but when I feel down or over-stressed, I feel like I have a responsibility not to inflict that on other people and to protect them from it. I also just plain feel like being alone or sometimes I'll get really involved with something new and different to kind of re-charge and have an outlet for all that crap. The idea of someone worrying about me just seems completely absurd, somehow.
Anyway, the reason I think I do this particularly with my Leo friend is that I feel like when I'm in her company, I'm expected to be all sh**s and giggles and play the faithful audience member (whether she's being a crack-up or laying on the couch lamenting about old bfs) no matter how I'm feeling. Sometimes it's a lot of fun to do that and I don't mind. Other times I just have too much of my own to worry about to even have the idea on my radar screen. I love her to death, she's a lot of fun, and she can be incredibly generous... just not with attention. I try to be fair by just not asking this of her and in turn she respects that I don't always want to give her my attention. I don't think it's necessarily a total Leo thing, but I wonder what's going on in her chart and how it's interacting with mine on this.
Anyway, I was wondering how many other Caps go into isolation when they feel done in and if there's any particular person they avoid the most when they feel down and out.
I have to admit that this is something I do with just about everyone, particularly a Leo friend of mine. I don't know whether it's a particular cappy trait, but when I feel down or over-stressed, I feel like I have a responsibility not to inflict that on other people and to protect them from it. I also just plain feel like being alone or sometimes I'll get really involved with something new and different to kind of re-charge and have an outlet for all that crap. The idea of someone worrying about me just seems completely absurd, somehow.
Anyway, the reason I think I do this particularly with my Leo friend is that I feel like when I'm in her company, I'm expected to be all sh**s and giggles and play the faithful audience member (whether she's being a crack-up or laying on the couch lamenting about old bfs) no matter how I'm feeling. Sometimes it's a lot of fun to do that and I don't mind. Other times I just have too much of my own to worry about to even have the idea on my radar screen. I love her to death, she's a lot of fun, and she can be incredibly generous... just not with attention. I try to be fair by just not asking this of her and in turn she respects that I don't always want to give her my attention. I don't think it's necessarily a total Leo thing, but I wonder what's going on in her chart and how it's interacting with mine on this.
Anyway, I was wondering how many other Caps go into isolation when they feel done in and if there's any particular person they avoid the most when they feel down and out.
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Sun, July 27, 2008 - 8:27 AMi sure do love the leos but they can wear me out, too. and yes, i've done the same with leo friends in particular. i just don't have the kind of stamina they require out of a friend. so i've been known to avoid them. but at the same time, i don't want them to feel badly about themselves or feel like they've done something wrong. it's just i get worn out & also, i just need a lot of alone time too. -
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Mon, July 28, 2008 - 1:28 AMI most definitely tend to do the same. It's partly because I dont want to throw all my crap on other people and partly because I really need to sort out what's going on inside of me on my own. I also tend to go quiet, just don't have anything to say AT ALL and that is supposedly VERY uncomfortable to other people, then I feel guilty for making them feel uncomfy and there you have a pretty little vicious circle...
Generally in those times I tend to shy away from my general and maybe more superficial acquaintances, my two best friends who I feel know me very well, I can always go to.
Also funny how the Cap seems almost surprised that someone could worry about them... in my view its because they are surprised someone actually cares about them, heheh. I am always very touched since deep down I do feel quite undeserving of love, which is apparently a cappy trait... I don't know. -
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Mon, July 28, 2008 - 8:24 AMbeen there and done that as well. not just with leo friends, but others as well. I also feel strange when people say they get worried when i dont call or anything, I always toss back, well you know you have a phone and know where I live if you are that concerned. :) gets em everytime. -
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Mon, July 28, 2008 - 11:36 PMI too think it's a very Cappie trait to 'disappear'... We can be on-scene and content for a while, and then apparently vanish while we're either neck deep in a project, or work commitment. We're artists, scientists, scheming politicians, dedicated atheletes, all who must press the nose to the grindstone to achieve our myriad accomplishments.
We can be quite content as hermits, or potentially thrive in the center of attention when it suits our needs or goals. We're also very independent and tend to (publicly) shrug off the care and concern of friends and loved ones (when privately it gives us great reassurance.)
Feel free to give us a ring or stop by... but don't be suprised if we react like Dr. Frankenstein at peak moment when creating the monster! "No! Stop you fools! Now, you've ruined everything!" But then seeing an opportunity to shine, Dr. Frank. invites you in for a peak... "It's alive! It's alive!!!"
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Tue, July 29, 2008 - 6:59 AM"You might just be surprised at our demented genius!"
muhahahahahahahahaah!
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Tue, July 29, 2008 - 8:59 AMSo, do you think that if a Cap friend or acquaintance drops off the face of the earth we should try to keep in touch with them until they come back? Because I've noticed several of my Cap friends/SO's do just that. (I tend to be understanding because, as a Pisces, I do it a lot too when I need to be alone and regroup) -
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Tue, July 29, 2008 - 1:57 PMi have definitely been found guilty of disappearing. In fact, i'm doing it right now!
i sometimes go days without answering my phone, or months without going out to parties, and my family hears from me only a few times a year. On the inside of this disappearing act, i consider myself fully present. I have so much to sort out, organize, create, investigate, process, discard and learn from in every moment, there hardly seems to be time or energy to deal with anybody else's concerns. This is why everyone thinks we're self-absorbed--we ARE.
Now if i make the effort to reach out and connect with a Capricorn friend and they don't respond for weeks or months, i take it very personally because i feel like i must not be very important to them if they can't be bothered even to let me know that they are doing their disappearing thing and it's not because i suck. So what i've learned from this is that it's a good idea to let people know where you're at before or while you've disappeared just to show some respect for that relationship. It can be really hard to pull your head out of the sand to do this, but for just one moment, showing someone that you value their friendship can make a world of difference.
My sun and moon are opposite, and what lies at the midpoint of the two is Libra, the scales. What could be more poignant than that as a lesson in balancing extremes? The planet i have in Libra is Uranus, which reminds me that i must keep changing, stay fluid, don't fall into a rut, and be willing to let others influence me. It may be that i have so much Scorpio energy that i thrive on being reclusive and making magick happen in secret, but go too far down that rabbit hole and people eventually forget about you. There are times when i feel lonely and disconnected and wonder where all my friends are, and i have to admit that i may have pushed them away by hiding out so much. There must be a way to stay connected while still preserving that inner richness that makes us who we are. In my case, the solution is to be found in meditations on balance.
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Tue, December 8, 2009 - 7:41 AMI'm a capricorn and Yes your right I do that a lot to my friends when I either need my space or just don't like how they are... but over all most people tend to miss understand capricorn's... a lot of leo I don't really like dealing with cause there not good friends there for them selfs.... and sometimes turn on you...Now I'm not saying everybody dose this but from me dealing with family&friends who are leo's thats how they have been... I was in a relationship with one for 9 1/2 yrs he was all about him self and still is to this day ...they don't know when there wrong and won't say sorry so maybe thats why caps tend to back off them so much.....
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Fri, August 1, 2008 - 12:20 AMI have a couple of suggestions for reasons we do this kind of thing that might clarify the situation. Firstly Capricorns operate on a whole nother frequency of time. IN other words while a leo or cancer might be thinking about what there going to do tonight. A capricorn is likely thinking about how there curent projects might culminate in the coming years. the elements are a great way of visualizing a signs behaviour. Capricorn, being an earth sign tends to accomplish things over a great period of time. Take the grand canyon for example. It took millions of years ( or something like that) to form yet each nook and cranny was delicately timed and carefully constructed based on weather patterns erosion etc. etc. A capricorn Is the same way and other signs can have a real hard time understanding that just because we had a blast at the party today it doesnt mean we will want to do it again tomorrow. Esentially we prefer meaningfull rewards gained ofver long periods of hard work to instant gratification.
Another reason for this behaviour is the capricorns propensity for deep introspection. If we encounter a problem often times we will simply concentrate on it in a very deep almost obsessive manor untill its solved even if it takes months or years.
Also We absolutly hate to look dumb or bad in any way even though were not shallow or anything we concentrate soooo hard when we interact socially to behave in a "perfect" manor that it takes alot out of us, and we just need to be alone for awhile to recharge. I dont know about the rest of you but I really love to be alone, even though I hate it. -
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Sat, August 2, 2008 - 12:52 AMhaha, i don't think i do a very good job of acting in a perfect manner.
i just came to the conclusion today that while i consider myself a kind person, "nice" is not an adjective that aptly describes me. -
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Sat, August 2, 2008 - 9:07 AMlol yah thats what the quotation marks were for. I could have said we try really hard not to be embarased. nice has nothing to do with it necisisarily. -
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Sat, August 2, 2008 - 11:58 AMwell i guess i took it a step further to imply that keeping up appearances for social graces is considered "nice" to most people.
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Sat, August 2, 2008 - 12:19 PMJoining in late here, having disappeared for a while!! hahahah. . .. OK, guilty as charged. Tho usually I blame my Sag cusp for my fiddle-dee-dee now ya see me now ya don't thing... Being a solo flyer is part of the entity. Though in all seriousness: with friends of the heart or blood family it's a different story. There is no need to 'keep up appearances' or for 'social graces' -- and my goal forward is to somehow try and maintain relationships at this level or not get drawn in. . . New tribe friends raise the level of intensity and it's timely..... love my intense Caps. . . -
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Sat, August 2, 2008 - 10:16 PMword.
my goal is to figure out how not to be a hypocrite. For example, it's perfectly ok for me to disappear, but i get offended when others do it. -
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Mon, August 4, 2008 - 8:06 PMi do it all the time... and will probably do one here real soon... my girl is moving away, so i'm probably going to be in a funk for a bit... which will give me time to work on side stuff... -
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Wed, August 6, 2008 - 5:28 AMSorry Caps but you ain't got exclusivity on the "disappearance act". I'm Aqua and I do it all the time.
One of my friends is a Capricorn - our idea of having fun is taking long walks in the city without talking to each other. We can go through months with no contact and we're ok.
I don't see the point in being around people all the time, especially people that I don't have anything to learn from and that have nothing to say. -
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Wed, August 6, 2008 - 6:58 PMwell IMO the worst in the disappearing act department is Scorpio. No one burns bridges like a Scorpio, and when they disappear, it's often permanent. I think the difference between Scorpio and Capricorn in this respect is that Capricorn is more aloof about their disappearing, whereas for Scorpio, it's fully intentional and meant to convey a message. I am amazed sometimes how many weeks can go by before i'll call someone who i have no idea is waiting every day to hear from me. Those few weeks can be so full of (((myself))) that i lose touch with the outside world considerably.
I understand to a degree what you're saying, Elisei, i keep to myself unless i feel that the company of others would enrich me in some way. But sometimes you just never know what magic is going to happen when you put yourself somewhere that you wouldn't normally be. Maybe the people around you have nothing to say of interest to you, or nothing to teach you, but what if you might say something to THEM that might be of value? You Aquarians have a way of making people think differently about things than they may ever have before. That alone is reason to keep yourself locked up for too long. -
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Wed, August 6, 2008 - 6:59 PMi mean reason NOT to.
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Thu, August 7, 2008 - 1:12 AMYou are right, madame7, I have been known to be quite a life-changer with my words and ideas. Maybe that's because I am really passionate about what goes out of my mouth and my life experience has created a different life perspective. I learned a lot from others too but I learned the most from my solitude.
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Thu, August 7, 2008 - 4:19 AMyeah but when a scorpio disapears, it's a GOOD thing. at least in my experience, anyway.
and as far as caps & aquas go, that can be true too. i just started talking to an aqua friend that i hadn't spoken to in well over a decade. we had been best friends & roomies for years & then got into a fight & stopped talking. and then totally out of the blue we're talking again, nearly every day, just like no time passed at all.
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Thu, August 7, 2008 - 8:29 AMPisces is well known for disappearing as well. I take not-so-brief hiatus' from reality on a regular basis, but generally it's just to sort out my inner drama queen. I'm a Pisces sun, Cap in Venus, Taurus moon, so I can keep myself regulated fairly well for a phish, but (like a Cap) I don't like it when others see me at a point where I can break (or worse yet, see me actually break) so I disappear for a while. It's a great coping mechanism, as long as you have stable friends who don't get all flighty when you stop calling them every hour.
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Absolutely guilty as charged!
Wed, August 27, 2008 - 2:36 PMI didn't realize this was such a notoriously Cap phenomenon but it's good to know I'm not the only one!
I had one friend who once said, "You must have a lot of quarters." When I asked why, he said, "Well, in the game of life, you seem to be able to restart as many times as you want."
It's partially true, but more than restarting, I have periods where I need to recharge, or just plain get back to work. For many years I had not one but TWO Leo best friends. The two of them together seemed to buzz with energy. When I need to blow off steam and party, they were the best friends, but when I changed gears and wanted to get back to whatever project I was working on, or just plain be alone, they always felt perplexed and hurt. In their view, NOTHING could be accomplished if it wasn't done at least partly in cooperation with someone else. I am much more private and secretive, and where my personal energy drains the more time I spend socializing, theirs would keep building up until they could almost float through the ceiling.
I definitely disappear often, even if it's just for one day where I stop answering my phone (although sometimes it's much longer than that, and sometimes I never come back.). Sometimes it's just my inner switch went from "Play Hard" back to the normal presets "Work Hard" and "Stress Out". A lot of the times I stop socializing for periods of time because I realize what a drain of time and energy it is that I could be using accomplishing something "productive", and I feel a sickening sense of lost time. In my own personal life, I've chosen work that doesn't require me to leave the house......I couldn't stand seeing my time sucked away getting ready for work, commuting, taking a lunch hour, etc. When I've driven myself batty pursuing my multitudinous goals I'll take a break and let myself have some fun. Not too much fun though. That would be a waste of time.
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Re: Absolutely guilty as charged!
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 11:57 PMWow. I can't count how many times I've had the need to disappear this year.
My life has been so frenetic this, health issues, turning 50, putting my dog to sleep after 9 years...and to top it all off, I just got divorced. Hells yeah, I've needed to go POOF. Every few months, I take a few days off and sleep. -
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Re: Absolutely guilty as charged!
Tue, October 28, 2008 - 2:43 PMNow that I think about it I do this...I tend to hangout with people for months and then disappear into my cave and come out a couple months later and do the same thing..Its nothing personal, its just sometimes I wanna disappear dont know why but i do......... -
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Re: Absolutely guilty as charged!
Tue, October 28, 2008 - 3:19 PMi fully understand this!
i am in hiding lately. i will come out this weekend for a halloween party and then disappear again, possibly until New Year's. Last year i was notably absent on NYE. I was planning on being at the party but then this force compelled me to stay home and stay up all night doing collage. I usually feel a strong aversion to doing whatever "everybody" is doing. That includes parties, movies, potlucks, hotspots...perhaps for me to maintain my uber-geek persona it is necessary for me to avoid anything the "cool kids" are doing.
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Mon, January 12, 2009 - 11:32 AMYES!!!!! I feel that way all the time with my Leo friends.
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Mon, January 12, 2009 - 5:30 PMi something to say.
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Mon, January 12, 2009 - 5:33 PMi **have** something to say...
lol, i cannot even make a spontaneous joke without messing it up.
capricorn curse... we're slow because we need to be...otherwise we just end up embarassing ourselves -
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Thu, January 15, 2009 - 3:37 AMI think you hit the nail on the head.. humiliation is a Capricorn's worst nightmare. Even a threat of potential embarrassment can make me shut down and find another way.
I think calling it being "self-absorbed" (in one of the previous posts) is a little misleading because that implies that Caps are thinking only about themselves, but actually, they're thinking more about how their actions will frame the future or affect others' perception of them. Caps are certainly more complex than people think, but they don't know it because we don't let people see our weaknesses. It's safer to go into hiding than to air issues in public.
So, when a Capricorn you know goes into hiding mode, (most of the time) they're striving for perfection and are figuring out how to not make a mistake or say the wrong thing. Or they could just be ignoring you.. :)
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Tue, January 13, 2009 - 1:18 PMI'm guilty of this too and with a Leo as well. But I think he's figured out my Houdini ways and knows now that I won't disappear for too long. I agree with Kyle I think we do need time to recharge and recuperate. -
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Wed, January 14, 2009 - 6:23 PMneeding time to recuperate is cooll... but when they leave people hanging only to guess... and letting things linger without saying anything... then those are the terms of dismissal too me...
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Wed, January 21, 2009 - 8:51 AMyeah your not alone me being a capricorn do the same thing. Like for a good week or days or how much i feel like i enjoy the company of many then out of no where i turn into a hermit and drop contact with most people i get all solitaire and melancholic. No one seems to mind it though cause their used to my behavior and know how i am. The only person however who gets very aggravated with my actions is a fellow Capricorn friend b-day 1/11/93... i dont know why but i guess we share the habit of not wanting to be reminded of our negative traits since we're bout capricorn....but im just sayin...
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Wed, January 21, 2009 - 3:21 PMCapricorn is a dreamer. Dreamers live on another planet. Y´all don´t live on that planet. Therefore it´s not surprising you don´t hear from the capricorn.
Yes, the astrologers got it all wrong. Caps are dreamers.
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Sat, October 17, 2009 - 1:48 PMoh boy... i am a leo girl who has dealt with this from a cap man. our situation was a little more complicated though. we fell instantly and madly in love with each other but the timing was all wrong. first i was with someone and then right before i broke up with that guy he began a relationship with someone else... to which he's still currently attached.
our story is so entangled and complex that i won't even get into it. i would have been more ok with the whole disappearing act if he had done one little thing... communicate. communication is an example of mutual respect and respect is a HUGE deal with me. it kinda felt like game playing to me after so long. i got fed up. i gave plenty of space, i wasn't needy or whiny, and i was vocal. he couldn't handle me. i like to face my demons head on so when we started experiencing some obstacles regarding miscommunications i brought it to the forefront. he would sort of flip out, become obviously anxious, and act like he didn't know what i was talking about. i spelled everything out for him so he knew of my intentions. i let him know straight up where i stood and what my concerns were that i was having difficulty swallowing. i used gentle, rational approach and am not a typical leo in acting out dramatically. i don't scream or yell. i'm not aggressive. however, i am assertive. he has his needs and i have mine. it was important, if we wanted the relationship to survive, that we openly communicate. it was apparent we spoke different languages and we had to both put forth effort to become bi-lingual. i was willing. he wanted to run away. oh well! i am only willing to compromise certain behaviors, not who i truly am. as much as i deeply love(d) that man, i had to let him go. i realized i was this force to be reckoned with that swooped into his simple life and caused quite a stir. before me he had everything neatly tucked into place. i felt like i was doing more harm than good, and in the end, he was starting to cause me some pain as well. boy was he worth it though! no regrets! he remains my most favorite man in the entire universe! -
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Wed, October 21, 2009 - 1:26 PMHere here Ninja!!!
<-- Libra/Gem with a Leo moon connected past 20 years hot cold tp a Cap/Cap woith a Leo moon.
Fate (and both having WAter Grand Trines) won't let us call it a day....
But I find as nice as it is to have a rock to steady course by, it sure aint good for communication.
I actually have only "lost track of him" one two year period out of the whole 22 we've known each other.
And I was his closest confident until ... we lived together. Now you'd think I was a double agent!
Why so secretive NOoow! I already know EVERYthing about you ...FROM YOU?
His way of "disappearing" I think.
I won't give up til he pushes me out the door and turn off the porch light to answer the question.."ya sure ya wanna do this?"
I think that is the Leo in me (The Libra and Gem shoulda long since bailed! LOL) -
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Re: Now ya see 'em, now ya don't: The Cap Disappearing Act
Wed, October 21, 2009 - 6:20 PMI am a Cappy and I certainly have times to be social and times when I have to focus to keep a balance to all the weight I have (or saturn has) put on my shoulders.
I have to say as a young adult with new freedom I was not so considerate in letting people know I was OK, I had to learn that. I am not one that would be offened if this was done to me, however, I **would** worry about that person so I try not to put others in position to worry about me.
I have learned to communicate the intentions behind my behavior and also the value I hold in my friendships so they understand me better. It seems to work just fine.
I also have 2 very close Leo friends (of about 12+ years) and yes they are balls of endless energy.
When I am not around, they keep each other busy...And they understand that I go into my cave when needed and it is nothing personal. They are both pretty supportive actually.
They respect my time and will not interrupt it but at the same time know in emergency I will be there.
Infact, more recently, one of them texted me (not call, since it was not emergent) and said "I need you".
She NEVER interrupts me so I stopped what I was doing and called her immediately.
As far as the amount of time I spend alone/focused on my goals...
With age I have an increasing awareness that time is limited with the people I love so I do not take them for granted. I still have to do what I need to do as I work, but with the emphasis of 'quality over quantity' when it comes to sharing time and I do not forget to catch up/make time.
My friends and family give me space and I intern accomodate them as they are too.
I do not put expectations on them, but I do try to give them the things that 'they' need when I am present/or not.
And Aquarian poster (somewhere above), you are correct, we are not the only ones that dissapear.
I have many Scorpios AND Cancers in my family/circle of friends that need alone time...
So for me, the disappearing act is not such a bad thing. It can be managed as we become more aware...
As for Scorpio's disappearing, I have a stellium in Scorpio (Mars/Venus/Jupiter) in my 7th house of relationships and when I disappear in/from that respect, I certainly am gone for good.
I never look back either. In fact, I can complete forget that person at will. And I do.
But that has happened only 1 time so far in my life and it was a good call.
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